Would You Give ‘Plan B’ To Your Daughter?

Would You Give ‘Plan B’ To Your Daughter?

Well, I have to admit I’m shocked at this one. The American Academy of Pediatrics is now recommending that teenagers be given prescriptions for Plan B, an emergency contraceptive that generally reduces the fertilization of egg and sperm with hopes that the measure will reduce teen pregnancy. Would you give it to your daughter?

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Well, I have to admit I’m shocked at this one. The American Academy of Pediatrics is now recommending that teenagers be given prescriptions for Plan B, an emergency contraceptive that generally reduces the fertilization of egg and sperm with hopes that the measure will reduce teen pregnancy. Plan B is not to be confused with the abortion pill, which hastens a miscarriage once an embryo is formed in the uterus. Plan B is basically a massive dose of hormones found in the typical birth control pill.

Doctors should give underage teenagers prescriptions for emergency contraceptives like Plan B before they start having sex instead of waiting until a young patient’s “plan A” goes awry, the American Academy of Pediatrics says in a new policy statement. It says doctors should also counsel teens on the various options for emergency birth control as part of an overall strategy to reduce teen pregnancy.

The academy is issuing the new position paper, published online Monday by the journal Pediatrics, as physicians and other health experts struggle to reduce the nation’s high birthrate among adolescents.

Truth time: I have taken Plan B. I took it when The Hubster and I were dating and the condom broke. I was in college and raising Maxi Me, and no way in hell was I going to have another kid as a single mom. Mike and I agreed that we simply could not afford the risk, so I went to my university doctor and got the prescription. Now mind you–it wasn’t FOR SURE that I would be pregnant, the only thing for certain at that time was that the condom broke. No abortion took place. I just want to make that clear to anyone reading this who has an abnormal, mouth-frothing hatred for me and masturbates to the thought of spreading fresh gossip. It’s also the reason why No Wedding No Womb has always advocated for birth control and part of the solution to the sky-high out-of-wedlock problem. I know better than anybody how mishaps can happen.

So I filled the prescription and took the two pills. You take one the first day and then take the other the next. This pill is no joke. I was horribly nauseous for 48 hours. Mike, helpless to nurse me because he lived 70 miles away and me living with my parents while I finished school, and unable to tell my generally hysterical mother anything personal, I suffered in silence until it was over. It’s not a pill you’d take as a lazy man’s birth control, ya’ll. The side effects alone are enough to not ever want to be put into the position of needing it again. Plan B was a success, and Mike and I didn’t make another slip like that until it was accidentally-on-purpose in our marriage bed. We “let it slip” one time. And that one time, I got pregnant with Chloe (aka Clo Clo). We had another “slip” two years later, then Zachary aka The Boy came along. We thought we were done. I wanted The Hubster to get The Big V. He didn’t. So…24 hours after Barack Obama’s 2008 inauguration, The Babster (Emma) was conceived, despite our best efforts to prevent it. Just a word of caution–skip the lambskin condoms on the sex rack at CVS. Trust me…it’s best to use the latex.

I say all that to show you how easily my husband has been able to impregnate me. When I am ovulating, there’s about a 100% chance I’ll get knocked up, so we were wise to use Plan B while we were dating, because at 25, I for sure would have gotten pregnant, and that would have been a disaster.

But…I was 25. These doctors are talking about putting Plan B into the hands of teenagers before they even have sex. My initial thought was, “What the hell? My kid isn’t even 15 yet. Why are these doctors pushing birth control down our kid’s throats? My kid just barely had her first kiss!” Then, I had another thought. I know, in my heart of hearts, that if my daughter sought out the Plan B pill, I would not stand in her way. I don’t know if I’d be comfortable having that conversation with her in a pediatrician’s office for God’s sake–these are fricken BABY DOCTORS!! But if the doctor brought it up in a conversation with Maxi Me, and suggested she have this prescription, I wouldn’t go H.A.M. I might warn her not to ever get herself into a situation in which she might need to cash that check. Thing is, I remember what it was like in high school. Girls got pregnant all around me. It was absolutely insane. I don’t want that for any of my girls. I want them to have 100% control over when they decide to have children.

And now for the zinger. A longtime BB&W member and physician, Law Wanxi, asked me to bring this up for discussion. Here’s what he said to me:

I think we’ve come to a point where women should just write off and discard the idea that men should have any contraception responsibility at all. Period. I know that a lot of people will say “Well, the man should…”, but the Real World truth of the matter is that the man isn’t and that is that. It’s a nice little fantasy world to live in, but I live in the Real World, a cold and unrelentingly cruel place where the undeserving prosper, the good die before their time and where love is statistically non-existent.

 

So folks, what say you?

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Blackberry 1177 pts

I would allow my daughter (this is hypothetical because i am not yet a mother) if it was necessary. I have been fortunate that i have not (yet) had need of plan B...but I'm not ethically opposed to plan B so i wouldnt be opposed to my daughter using it. Although if it were necessary ....boy would things change around my house. Especially Im going to be the kind of parent who has had the sex talk...like all the time....til the point it pisses my daughter off. I could be wrong but Plan B used to be available over the counter (in some states in you're over the age of 18) minors may still need the perscription. Perhaps doctors are giving it "just in case" because their may not be time to schedule an appointment, have the appointment and get the perscription from the time a teen actually informs her parent she needs Plan B. Lastly, i agree with Law. I am a woman, i believe its my womb...if I want it to remain vacant thats on me. In marriage hopfully family planning is a couple's decision and so the man and woman pool their resources to address all reproductive issues as they would pool their resources for all aspects of their lives. But if a woman is single or just dating....birth control, condoms...pregnancy preventive is not something woman should abidicate for the man to handle. On the other hand i will tell my (future hypothetical) sons that they are both stupid and selfish if they say birth control is the woman's problem. If you want to have sex and NOT pay child support....then invest in family planning. Not only will it make you a considerate guy, its less expensive.

Bren82 1304 pts

If I knew that my daughter was sexually active, I would have the Plan B discussion with he however I would not purchase it just in case since it is emergency contraception. I would tell her that I want her to save herself however if she can't use a condom and take but control. I had to take Plan B after the heat of the moment passed and when I came down, realized that "SH$!, I didn't pick up the RING!!" Luckily I had the method from a previous scar th Aunt Flo canceled out. Thankfully I didn't experience any side effects. I even rushed to the gyn for a back-up confirmation that the method worked, and I'm a grown married woman. I can't imagine having my daughter experience the same thing.

JannaAshley 571 pts

I don't understand why they are suggesting to just give prescriptions for it just in case, but if it came down to the fact that my daughter ended up having sex and didn't use protection or it failed, I'd want her to take Plan B. I know I took it one time just because of paranoia - I don't remember if I suffered any bad side effects.

I definitely want to teach my kids to be safe and encourage waiting. I was not sexually active as a teen, not even really into boys...lucky for my parents because they sure as hell NEVER EVER said a single word to me about sex when I was growing up. Literally. Not one word about it. I know that can be due to how they were raised, but that's just inexcusable to me. I guess they were 100% sure I was not dealing with boys. They were right, but I will NOT be working with that assumption with my daughter. I know I won't be condoning that my kid has sex as a teen, but I'm realistic so she will definitely be educated. If it comes down to her needing Plan B, condoms, whatever - I want her to have it, because I cannot even think about having a pregnant teen or being a grandma before I even hit 40 lol.

 

And unfortunately I have to agree with Law's statement. As much as I hate that so many men want to be sperm donors and nothing else, there is nothing to keep them from running away. They have the luck of not having their bodies locked up to grow a child. So women can't rely on anybody else to protect them or their bodies.

grrlysquirrel75 1121 pts

My oldest niece (my younger brother's child) is about to be 15. My parents are raising her, and my mother does her damnedest to make sure that Jade knows sex ain't no joke. Jade's mom was 19 when she had her and has had a promiscuous lifestyle since way before Jade was born. My brother's not exactly a choir boy, so my parents and I know that there's the possibility that, despite my mother's willingness to discuss sex with her, she could still end up pregnant. Unfortunately, no matter how often parents talk to their kids, there's one thing they have no control over, outside influences i.e. the kids' friends, the media, and society in general.

SirLoinDeBeef 2490 pts

Sex education has come a LONG way since the 1950s, when I was a teen - examples:

(1). The middle school course taught by an up-tight, prim instructoress (who was forced to teach the course as a punishment, by the school administration) - a quick review of the 'plumbing,' followed by a lovingly-detailed review of all the different STDs and their hideous symptoms - a showing of Reefer Madness - another showing of the Birth of A Child, with about a third of the film censored according to the Comstock Code, emphasizing the pain and the mess - that followed by a further description of explicitly-noted, disgusting filth like ejaculation and menstruation - concluding with a long talk about High Moral Character.

(2). The parental talk, ending within 20 seconds by Father's full-strength backhand slap, and followed by kicks to the face,stomach and genitals, with inarticulate shouting, and that followed by Mother, telling me never to say nasty things like that and that it never happened.

(3). An local ordinance/law, requiring that any purchaser below the age of 21 must obtain a signed permission note from the parent, complete with name, address and phone number, plus a physician signature - as a direct result, some very innovative uses of early plastic wrap, waxed paper or purchase of wholly-unreliable Mexican condoms, which ripped open at the first movement.

(4). As a further consequence, lots of misinformation passed around 'on the street corner,' complete with innovative uses for coke syrup and asperin.

And this was for the guys ... Gawd alone knows what vicious stuff was force-fed the girls.

EarthJeff 3233 pts

These are certainly questions that every involved parent faces.  I would like to say EVERY parent, but then we do live in the real world...  In my opinion as both a parent and a teacher who lives every day with 1100 teenagers, preaching abstinence does not work as well as encouraging abstinence and preaching smart choices with that discussion being a DISCUSSION, not a sermon.  Discuss the reasoning for the smart choices.  My daughter is 20 and my son almost 16 and I have had these relevant discussions with both.  I feel very lucky so far that their choices have been positive.  In addition, I think you need to be open to all alternatives such as this pill.  I agree we dont want to get to that point of needing it, but better to be prepared if it becomes necessary.  It is just another tool on the list of choices.

oekmama 1047 pts

I have two little boys, and already a major part of their upbringing is taking responsibility for their actions. If they make a mess, they have to own up to it and clean it up themselves.

 

Secondly, I'm trying to teach them day by day, that everything is connected... and when they are old enough, that not using a condom may end up more costly in a number of ways: STDs, unwanted pregnancies and so on...

 

I don't believe appealing to a child/teenager's moral side will work - well, maybe with the religious-minded - but it has been the approach til now, and in general, it isn't working. I think a part of a realistic approach has to recognize teens as sexual beings (whether they are ready for such contact or not), and encourage to look at the opportunity costs of early pregnancy. 

 

If I had a daughter, I would have that unfilled Plan B prescription around. In order to get it, she'd have to come to me, be an adult about it and 'fess up.

Asia 191 pts

As a young adult 21 about to be 22 in two weeks yay!! I think more parents need to be open and willing to talk to their children about sex. The truth is if people didn't make it seem so awkward to talk about it with parents young people would be more willing to do it and even if it seems like they aren't listening keep talking anyway. I watched so many girls in high school get pregnant and all I could think is where are their parents? Maybe their parents did talk to them about it. Maybe these kids were too embarrassed to go buy condoms? Maybe they weren't ready to admit to their parents they were having sex and that they should be put on birth control? Maybe just maybe if most people didn't make it so awkward to talk to their parents about it they would had been on birth control and we wouldn't be worrying about Plan B. I think a lot of it is that they just weren't communicating enough with their parents.

Asia 191 pts

I also just thought I'd add look how the media portrays the "sex talk" the parents get all weirded out the kids try and run off like it's gross to talk about that with their parents. Even Twilight there is a scene with Bella and Charlie and he hints around as to whether or not shes "being safe" and Bella runs upstairs. Sorry but no the media complains about teen pregnancy the they run and send mixed signals. They should depict these characters as being comfortable talking about this stuff.

Lexi88 2180 pts

I have two daughters, My ex and I made it our business to educate our girls about sex at a very young age. Providing contraceptive to teens so freely is taking the responsibility away from parents and in to the hands of tptb. 

Plan B is not the answer. Parents need to take responsibility for the lives they've bought into this world. Teens DO listen. Educate them on why they should wait to have sex, and the beauty that comes with waiting.

If plan B is needed, clearly protection was not used, opening the door for something much more life changing than a child.

We can't fix this with a pill.  

Christelyn 8678 pts moderator

 Lexi88 "If plan B is needed, clearly protection was not used, opening the door for something much more life changing than a child."

 

Not always. As I mentioned in my own story, protection was used and it failed.

BlackWomenDeserveBetter 1843 pts

 Christelyn   Lexi88 It is a tough call for many parents: How do we instill morality and help our children understand that sex has a high price tag? At the same time, we also want to protect them from possibly setting themselves back a generation by having a baby too soon...My issue would be the notion of "Hey...No real consequence...All I have to do is take these little pills and life goes on!"

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Lexi88 2180 pts

 BlackWomenDeserveBetter  Christelyn  

 

The" no real consequences attitude" is what scares me.

I know grown women who use plan B and even abortion as a contraceptive method, because it is easier than having to deal with pregnancy.

I am far from a prude, nor do I want to make birth control decisions for other women. But, I do believe in parents playing their part in educating, instilling morals and guiding their TEENS to make better choices. We're not talking about married adults in loving relationships, these kids need guidance, not a way out. 

We've become a society that accept and condone any and everything, all in the name of being fair and politically correct. 

Sex is not the problem, the need to have it, at such a young age is. 

Let's stop medicating the symptoms, and get to the root of the diseases. 

I know society would like us to believe teens are irrational, over the top, live for the moment little monster, but I know different.

That attitude is a cop-out. Again parents need to take control of their household...education starts from the crib!

Blackberry 1177 pts

@BlackWomenDeserveBetter @Christelyn @Lexi88 No real consequences.... I think this about attitude. Personal opinion here only: I would count having to take Plan B (or worse, getting an abortion) as a consequence. I don't yet have daughters...but if I had needed Plan B as a teen. Not only would that have felt like a consequence.....my mother would NOT have given me the pill and then been all "back to our regularly scheduled programming". There would have been follow up. This is what I mean by attitude. The tone is set by parents before sex and afterwards. If the worst happens .....what attitude have your instilled in your child from before. If the attitude was just "no glove no love" then yeah she'll treat Plan B like a get out of jail free card. If the attitude was broader, a discussion about responsibility and consequences then Plan B is relief, but its use is considered a failure and that a change in cirumstance is needed = serious consequence.

zipporah 1712 pts

BTW what is going to happen to our DAUGHTERS with these hormones being pumped into them? we know cancer is HUGE from female hormones and Plan B just came out. I know my daughter isnt sexually active at 17 because she is too busy studying in school to go out on a date (it takes her longer to get her homework done) i wouldnt know what to do BUT she has seen how her older sisters were and she doesnt want to go down their path with DBR type men of ALL COLORS and her dad told her about sex at a young age and to wait until marriage--because he was a teenage father and didnt want the same for her....

zipporah 1712 pts

WOW what a looong run on sentence...LOL

LATsciguy 5 pts

 Lexi88 Hey, Lexi88, can I interview you for a newspaper article on this decision? @LATsciguy or geoffrey.mohan@latimes.com

 

Veron 1383 pts

I really don't like the wording of the LA times article because it implies that these sort of precautions will be handed out like skittles.  The prescriptions will be based on the lifestyle and desires of the patient, not to mention the discretion of the physician.  Conversations will have to be had. Whether that conversation does or does not end in a prescription, I think it's great that realistic forethought is even being implemented.  It will allow women/girls (maybe force some) to maintain that much more accountability for what they do with their bodies, which is what I thought the whole national conversation was chattering about.

 

I'm 26, no children, maybe never children, but based on how my mother brought me up, I think this sort of precaution would definitely be on the table were I to have a daughter.  With my mother, sex was an open conversation, so I was never shy about it, which is great when it comes to having straight up conversations with a man about sex.  Throughout high school I always had condoms whether I wanted them or not (I did not), and my mother always let it be known that I had resources available to me no matter what I was doing. I was asked if I needed to be on birth control about twice a year (non-judgementally I might add.  She might as well have been asking me if I needed a ride after school).  I'm sure if this sort of thing was available when I was a teen, I would have had a prescription.

 

Unfortunately, the reason why my mother kept the conversation going and was so proactive about things was because she was the exact opposite with her first born, my oldest sister.  Where as I didn't have sex until I was a junior in college (and it was wrapped up, pill-ed up, std tested, monogamous, don't you play not one game with me, sex), my sister starting having sex at 15, had an abortion at 16 (that my mother did not know about until later), a second at 18 (that my mother paid for, and it damn near killed her), and then had my oldest nephew out of wedlock at 19. She and my mother didn't have conversations about sex (outside of "where do babies come from") and males until the issue was forced and my sister kept getting pregnant.  And that's something my mother regrets to this day.

 

From that, when it comes to sex, I fully believe in being proactive, and giving youth a voice in the conversation.

 

Jamila 7147 pts moderator

 Veron Re: Repeated abortions

 

 

I have known of so many young black women with abortion after abortion after abortion until they finally have a baby, especially teenagers. It's why whenever I hear about a teenage girl getting pregnant I always advise against anyone trying to force the girl to get an abortion because 9 times out of 10 the pregnancy wasn't an accident in the truest sense and the girl will be pregnant again less than a year later. Young girls who want babies will just keep on "accidently" getting pregnant until they get what they want. 

Veron 1383 pts

 Jamila I absolutely agree.  My sister was in college when she got pregnant the second time, and my mother felt like abortion was the only way to "save" her life. I don't think my sister even wanted to be in school in the first place, so when she got pregnant with my nephew, it was pretty much common knowledge to everyone but my mother that she would drop out and have the baby.  My mother did make an appointment for an abortion, but ended up waiting in vain at the doctor's office for 4 hours before finally accepting that my sister was going to be a teen mother. Granted, that baby was probably the best thing that happened to her, because her act got together really quick, and, 16 years later, she's in a successful career, married, and a new mother to another son, but at the time, everyone, including her, just assumed her life was over at this point. 

 

My other sister was 16 and I was 9 while all of this was happening, and from that point, my mother never stopped talking to us about our bodies, and our future, and our responsibility to ourselves.  There was some resentment at the time, because my eldest sibling felt like she was being used as a cautionary tale... which, maybe she was, but my mother felt like she had made a huge mistake by not talking to her daughter about sex and men, and felt a certain amount of responsibility for the struggles that my sister had to go through as young single mother.

zipporah 1712 pts

this could be why we are having soo many oow babies to 'replace' the ones we aborted.

Blackberry 1177 pts

@Jamila @Veron So sad story: I was teaching a high school, we were learning about supreme court contraceptive cases actually. The school i taught in did not have sex education...not even abstinence only education. I'm talking zippo! So had to explain some on the contraceptives from the 50s -70s without breaking school rules. Just enough to they knew that the contraceptive in question wasn't a condom. So by the time we get to the cases in the 90s a girl (it was obvious her home life was a mess) pulls aside my co-teacher and mentions she's had mutliple abortions. (2 i believe) and the older guy( overage) had taken her to different clinics, different names, each time so no one was the wiser. She didnt know until out class that she could use contraceptives!!!! Shocked doesn't even begin to describe it. This girl's mother was...lets just say absentee parenting...and the counselor can't talk to her about sex! Even though it was against the rules....i took my ass down to planned parenthood. The next time I saw her we talked and gave her some leaflets. I reported thr boyfriend to the school so he couldnt come around anymore, but there was no criminal case ever. Within a few months she was out of school. Don't know what happened to her. Now obviously she needs lots of things: better home, therapy, no boyfriend statutorily raping her.....but she certainly didn't need a baby. Or rather a baby did not need to grow up in that mess. And clearly abstaining from sex was unlikely. I didnt even talk about Plan B...its was more like Plan Ohmigod!!! I just hoped that since she didnt want anymore abortions, that one day she would consider birth control now that she knew it was available.

zipporah 1712 pts

You are only 26. I didnt want babies at 26 either BUT i knew someday i would want at least one----just be MARRIED before you have babies...

AshleyFisher 382 pts

Well hopefully I will be the type of mother not to shy away from it. All my kids would know the ins and outs of birth control. 

MadamCJCPA 1125 pts

I went to my local Planned Parenthood and got on the Depo Provera 3-month birth control shot and had a standing appointment when I was ready to lose my virginity and become sexually active.  Yes, I was 21 years old, so I was older, wiser, and more informed of my options as a woman to prevent pregnancy and guard against STDs.  My son and daughter both will be duly informed of the ins and outs of being sexually active individuals and the responsibility that comes with it.  I will nag them to the point that either they will be completely prepared or freaked out that they opt not to go through with it until they are 100% comfortable.  My daughter (especially) will be taken to the OB-GYN to get the Depo shot before, during, and after she becomes sexually active, or I suspect she is thinking about it.

starzzzy 429 pts

I'm 22 and a only a couple of years ago I was a teenager. Here's my take: We always whine and complain about these young: girls having babies, but we are scared to tell them the TRUTH. We don't want to give them access to birth control and emergency contraceptives, but we get mad when they are having babies. Well, which one do you want? Plan B or a lifetime taking care of a kid you were not ready for? I would rather a girl have the Plan B pill and avoid having to decide to have an abortion, raise a kid, or place a baby for adoption ANY DAY! We can't have complete innocence and help girls learn to protect themselves unless we want to start escorting our young women everywhere they go until they marry. Young women need to be educated about sex and it cannot be a one time conversation. It needs to be honest and ongoing. Black women especially need to be educated on the issue of contraception and this includes young women in college. I've known one too many young Black women go off to college only to have a baby in the first or second year.

Christelyn 8678 pts moderator

 starzzzy Out of the mouths of babes...

Leille 151 pts

Daughter will be taking the pill once I think she has the slightest interest in boys. PERIOD! But if push came to shove, yes, plan B then a very, very serious heart to heart.

Leille 151 pts

... I will just stress what my parents stressed, don't have sex until you know you're ready, and that someone should be someone very special. Heavy duty consequences!

LorMarie 1343 pts

I'd be reluctant to give Plan B after reading this article and finding out it's a birth control pill on steroids, LOL. I'm prone to blood clotting via genetics and I was warned about taking birth control pills. Since it's genetic, my daughters may have the same condition so Plan B isn't a consideration. So I guess you can say that I wouldn't give it to my daughters not in principle but for health risks.

oekmama 1047 pts

 LorMarie I'm glad you brought this up - Chris hinted at this in her article: What will the effects of Plan B on teenagers? Has this been tested?

@oekmama @LorMarie I will give a shot at answering your question since I'm a canadian pharmacist. In Canada, the pill is over the counter in most provinces. In other words you don't even need a prescription. In Quebec, we (pharmacists) prescribe it so we get to meet the women ask them a few questions and give her some advices at the same time.  Unfortunately or fortunately it depends on your standpoint, I prescribe it alot to teenagers 14+ mostly because you need parental consent under 14 yrs old. Here in Canada (I'm pretty sure it's the same in the States) The active component of Plan B is levonorgestrel which is a progestin very common in many birth control pills. 


Now to answer your question I don't know all the details of your condition but a progestin like levonorgestrel is less likely to increase your risk of blood clots. However, when you have a history of blood clots, it is strongly advised not to use any oral contraceptives. Levonorgestrel is an "old" progestin which isn't linked as much to the formation of blood clots as the new progestins (eg.: drosperidone...I mention this because I see alot of publicity of law firms on American TV trying to find "victims" of the two birth control pills Yaz or Yasmine).


 Keep in mind that estrogens that you can find in combined birth controls pills are the one that have been more linked to the formation of blood clots but it is not impossible with progestins. The absolute risk is still low. I would say when reading an article or studies it is important to keep in mind that some words are relative One should always ask themselves what's the absolute risk. Example: If the likelihood of an event is 1 outta 10,000 if you double the risk it's still 2 outta 10,000. The word double seems huge but when you look at it from an objective eye it's still a very low risk.


 I don't know if my explanation is clear... If im not mistaken there are only two contraindications to PlanB which are pregnancy and hypersensitivy to one of the component in the product. I checked on the company website and thats all I found. However, I want to reinforce what Christelyn said it is NOT an abortive pill. In other words, if you are pregnant and you take the pills you will STAY pregnant. In my short experience ( keep in my mind that I am very young...only 25 yrs old) I would say that 90% of my patients experience no nausea or vomiting even though they take the two pills (0,75mg of levonorgestrel each) at the same time. The side effect that I see commonly is menstrual changes (spotting / periods early or late) However, I heard that back in the days the level of hormones were way higher and it wasn't that well tolerated which correlates with Christelyn's experience.


 To make a long story short, it is pretty safe nowadays amongst teenagers and the vast majority of women. In Canada, we are "crazy" enough to make it accessible almost like Tylenol. Data and time have proved that it is not that "crazy" Hope that can help, please excuse my shabby english because french is my first language.

Christelyn 8678 pts moderator

 oekmama  LorMarie Thanks, Pharm!

Blackberry 1177 pts

@Pharm That was very informative. Thanks.

zipporah 1712 pts

thats the scary part with clotting and then CANCERS with these hormones..they sound good until you find out youve been on the pill since you were 15 1/2 until 33+ and then get cervical or breast cancer later

JennMJack 1180 pts

I actually agree with this notion but for college aged girls who are on their parents healthcare. I had a friend in college who had an incident with her boyfriend. She was so shy and scared that her parents would find out. So, I went to the emergency room and lied and told them that I had had unprotected sex and needed plan b pills. If she had had a perscription, the whole ordeal could have been avoided.

 

The truth is, ish happens. And, like Law said, the women need to prepare and guard themselves. Condoms break. People do things in the heat of the moment. And, I think having a perscription beforehand is a great idea. I have a daughter and I fully intend to prepare her for life as best I can. That will include me letting her know that its okay to make mistakes. And, doing my level best to ensure that those mistakes do not result in long-term life altering consequences that could have potentially been avoided.

zipporah 1712 pts

ok maybe Plan B would be ok IF ONLY DONE ONCE  or maybe even TWICE and then no more.......if its continual it Could be dangerous later

Brenda55 19269 pts moderator

First.   I want to thank-you for your honesty in telling your story. 

 

Second.   I agree With Law.  This should subject be discussed candidly.....calmly....... and women should control this part of their health and sexuality.

 

Third.  I would hope that the decision to use Plan B for teens is made as a joint decision between the young woman, her parents,or guardians and the doctor. 

 

Fourth. Just so that we know what we are talking about.  Below are the websites for the two Plan B contraceptives used in the US.  You can access the frequently asked question sections for each from these pages.

 

 http://www.planbonestep.com/

 

http://www.mynextchoice.com/ 

 

Fifth.  Any person with medical knowledge of  and experience using these drugs should take the opportunity to join in this discussion.

 

Sixth.  As always play nice.

EarthJeff 3233 pts

 Brenda55 "Sixth.  As always play nice."

We SHOULD always play nice...

Jamila 7147 pts moderator

I wouldn't get any of my daughters pre-written prescriptions, nor would I push birth control. I wouldn't even push gardasil on them (read this if you wonder why: http://gaia-health.com/gaia-blog/2012-10-18/gardasil-destroys-girls-ovaries-it-should-have-been-predicted/)

 

I would talk to my girls, keep the door open on conversation and let them know that if they were planning on becoming sexually active that I would give them all the information they needed to know and let them know they could other information/services they need. I would also insist that the boy they were considering becoming sexually active with should go to their doctors appointment with them: I figure the boy won't go to that initial appointment, he probably won't go to anything else and he thinks that birth control is a woman's problem. His willingness or unwillingness to go also says a lot about how much he cares about your health--and his own--and it would reveal his maturity level. If he isn't willing to endure a little embarrassment/uncomfortableness NOW, before the two of you have sex, how mature do you think he is going to be with you after you have sex? 

tracyreneejones 3510 pts

 Jamila Girl, bye...the waiting rooms of the local clinics are filled with the boys and girl couples, and the gay male couples. These kids aren't intimidated by a doctor's visit, as a matter of fact, having recent proof of HIV test results is the new thing on these here mean streets. If your following what I'm saying is that just like the article states, the bag will still be left with the females when it comes to a pregnancy. Whatever type of symbolic hoops the younger females require their males to jump through does not equal his being responsible after a baby is born. I'm just glad the meds are readily available, as long as girls know how and where and who then they can do what they need to do if they choose to be mature enough to do damage control. It's a start and much better than the hush-hush secret handshake shit that Christelyn  described in her youf. I, too, had to perform a stupendous feat, during a blizzard no less, with $70, a fax machine and an internet savvy doctor in Florida. Thanks Rite-Aide!! 

Jamila 7147 pts moderator

 tracyreneejones  Christelyn  "These kids aren't intimidated by a doctor's visit, as a matter of fact, having recent proof of HIV test results is the new thing on these here mean streets."

 

That's why I'm keeping my baby girl out of these streets as long as possible. It wasn't like this when I was growing up, and I'm not that old.

BlackWomenDeserveBetter 1843 pts

 Jamila  ...I understand your point about making young adults "go through the motions" in an attempt to enlighten before reality comes crashing down....

My latest conversation: TIMEWASTER FILES: "Secret Agent Man"

zipporah 1712 pts

I REALLY dont think males will be responsible UNLESS they are married to the BRIDE. Husbands are concerned and will take more precautions Catholics use a form or rhythm method which takes the males responsiblity (dont know how it works though).....were on our own if we do it without being married