Leona’s Love Quest  Part XVII- Confessions of a Lovelorn Quester

Leona’s Love Quest Part XVII- Confessions of a Lovelorn Quester

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I’ve been a bad, bad girl. See, what had happened was . . . well, before I tell you what had happened, let me try to explain why it had happened.

It happened because I’ve had to put the quest on slo-mo for a while until I can manage my way around some unexpected financial obstacles. Mainly, the one class I relied on to pay my rent was dropped due to low enrollment, and I wasn’t even notified until a few weeks before classes began. So I’ve been scrambling more than usual to make ends meet. Needless to say, dating has been the least of my worries. I’ve been keeping the quest alive, but it’s been rough.

The woman who started Marrymealready.com offered me a free year’s membership but they are new and their membership is still so small that no one has even looked at my profile in weeks. Swirl Matchmaking, started by the successful Meet Up group ONYX in Atlanta, suggested I try a new Meet Up in my area started by one of their former members. I already had my misgivings about singles groups, especially one blatantly named “White Men for Black Women,” however; one of their first mixers was at a posh tapas bar on the waterfront, so I decided I should at least check it out. Perhaps my hopes were too high going in, but the offering of men that attended this event was even worse than the typical fare. Despite the hefty RSVPs only five men showed up while I was there and only one of them was under the age of 50. He was studying on-line to be a fitness trainer which I found interesting considering he was at least 40lbs overweight. Next, a recent divorcé who joked about being a great interracial boyfriend because he helped remove the tracks from his ex-wife’s hair weave. I made polite small talk with overbearing senior with a bad comb-over and later watched him try his luck with someone who I’m pretty sure was a transsexual. (I would be remiss not to mention that the host of the group is a lovely and gracious woman and I wish her all the best, but I won’t be returning.)

After the lively discussion a few weeks ago on BBW about one woman’s experiment with online dating and ethnicity, I tried checking all the ethnicity boxes in my profile with full disclosure about my motives to appear in more searches. The adjustment did boost my connections for a few days, but no more significantly than when I made any other kind of change to my profile. I exchanged some emails with a few rainbeaus for about a week and then, as usual, they all disappeared. For a while, I communicated with a New Yorker who was just a little too rough around the edges. I hung in there when he sent me a picture of the tattoo he wanted that covered one whole arm and half of his chest, but I couldn’t get past his confession that he once dabbled with the idea of getting into the porn industry.

All of this madness brought me to the point where I usually start having the I-am-going-to-be-alone-forever pity party and swear to give up on dating for real this time and I mean it; but. . . I started this blog to safeguard myself against that kind of defeatism and hopefully with your continued support and encouragement, I simply won’t be able to bring myself to admit defeat after eight lousy months. But you know that I’ve been putting myself out there over and over again and getting no results whatsoever so far right? Sooooo, surely you can understand why I weakened when Boy Wonder(my fly-by-night musician crush) called and I went way out of my way to join him for a brief tryst. He sent me a text at 4:00am from upstate New York to ask if I had time to see him between his show in Philadelphia and his flight out of DC the following afternoon. Instead, we decided to meet each other halfway in Delaware so we could spend the entire day together before his show in Philly and head back toward DC together in the morning. In no time I booked a hotel, packed a bag, and was on I-95 by 8:15.

Can you believe after all this plotting and planning we still did not have sex? We came very, very, very close to having sex, but we didn’t seal the deal. He hates the whole idea of wham-bam-thank-you-ma’am sex while he’s on tour (although I don’t know how he reconciles everything else we did with his conscience) and it’s really hard to be upset with him when he thinks he’s trying to be a nice guy. Despite my obvious frustration, it was really great to see him. Being with him feels so easy and familiar, I couldn’t believe a whole year had passed since our last meeting. We laughed and shared stories and slept because he had been driving for hours and because he woke me up at 4 o’clock in the morning. Still, it felt good to share a bed with somebody for a change- until he was gone. Placed at the bottom of the bill, he did not go on stage that night until nearly 2:00am. Completely exhausted, he opted to stay in Philadelphia instead of returning to our hotel after the show. He didn’t find (or make) time to see me again before his flight from DC either and I haven’t heard much from him since. The status of our relationship hasn’t changed and because I continue to indulge him, I can be damned sure it never will. My only excuse is that he occasionally offers exactly the kind of spontaneous adventures that I long for and even when he’s not around I can still feed off the anticipation of our next encounter.

It’s hard to believe my standards can be so high for men I’ve barely know from the internet or Meet Ups and so low for a paramour I’ve been coveting for years. It’s not that I don’t think I deserve any better; it’s that experience has taught me that people don’t always get what they deserve. Since Boy Wonder is not the one for me, can’t I at least find someone who possesses most of his better qualities? Can’t I meet someone equally as cute and funny and sweet and smart and sexy and talented who is altruistic and lives his life with a strong sense of purpose and thinks I’m super-hot?

Is that too much to ask?

 

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EarthJeff 3314 pts

"Can’t I meet someone equally as cute and funny and sweet and smart and sexy and talented who is altruistic and lives his life with a strong sense of purpose and thinks I’m super-hot?"

 

Well, there ARE so few of us.... ;)   But we are out here.  Leona, dont give up hope.  It will happen and when it does the long journey will be worth every step.  I think it was in Romancing the Stone when someone told Kathleen Turner that she was a hopeless romantic and she said "No, a HOPEFUL romantic"....  So are you.  No, that isnt too much to ask....

MiMikins512 46 pts

Leona, I think you have identified the reason I can't bring myself to online date.  When I meet a guy while out and about, or even through friends, we both have an opportunity to endear ourselves to one another before those not so endearing qualities are revealed.  Be it personality or looks, there's usually something that draws me to a guy, and that's what I fixate on while I'm stuck in the getting-to-know-you phase.  And that draw is what keeps me interested when I find out he smokes, or he has a kid, or he's a Republican.  But when I look at online profiles, it's all right there; the good, the bad, and the worst.  And while I might give Carissa's brother-in-law John with the amazing smile the benefit of further investigation when he tells me, three dates in, that he wants five kids in four years, "JustJohn222" will not receive the same benefit. 

iHeartLove 804 pts

Leona, I completely relate to your love quest trials and tribulations....

 

Online dating is hard and you meet a lot of duds. I try to work hard not to get discouraged, but some days I just feel like I'm over it. 

 

 

Leona_LoveQuest 432 pts

 iHeartLove Thanks. I'm really trying to get off line and into more social situations where I'd be more likely to meet single men. One of my Meet up friends got set up just a  month ago by our host and they're already talking marriage! It can still happen!

Jamila 7217 pts moderator

ATTENTION: The moderators here have discussed this before, but I'm going to bring it up again. When people are kind enough to write personal posts for our site, please refrain from attacking that person on a personal level or bringing general complaints about the site (i.e., "Why are you all always talking about white men, what about other men?" ) to the person who has been kind enough to share their personal story. If there is something that you want the author to respond to, then ask the author directly without making any assumptions. Thank you all in advance for being kind to our guests.

uninterracial 948 pts

 Jamila (i.e., "Why are you all always talking about white men, what about other men?" ) If this was directed at me, I wasn't attacking (REACHING-I'm MARRIED to a white man) her preference. I was merely making a suggestion in which the original poster kindly replied to me. I may have overstated the exclusively white men thing, but when going through the site and reading some of the posts, that is just how it comes off to me. I love this site because it gives me a chance to try to bond with other women involved in IR, and while I may not agree with every single thing that is said, I didn't know that I could be censored for making an observation.

Jamila 7217 pts moderator

To no one in particular: I totally forgot about my therapy session today and missed my appointment! I'm blaming this blog! 

uninterracial 948 pts

First of all, I’m not trolling.

 

Marry Me Already?  In my honest to opinion, this REEKS of desperation. A web site with a title of what a seemingly desperate man or woman would say to their mate is ridiculous. No wonder they are floundering. My husband says men can smell the desperation of some women. He has had to avoid many who were coming after him so often in the past.

 

You know, I get the purpose of meet up groups. I imagine it is a place to meet new people and to learn from each other. However, these groups with names like “WM for BF”, you might as well be on Craigslist. No surprise that the men that showed were over 50. It’s as if they finally reach the age where mom and dad can’t judge them (because they’re probably dead) and now, they want to explore. No thanks. My Husband and I met when we worked at local mall in our area. We were in our early 20’s at the time and in college.

 

When I read these articles about online dating, meet-ups, etc. trying to find a white guy, I’m wondering, what about other non-black guys? White is not always right. My husband had a lot to get out of system before we got serious and just by seeing the way he and his friends were behaving, I’m convinced men are men regardless of color. Now, I understand most women on the site are not feeling black guys, and that’s cool, but this exclusively no black men, yes white men thing is a little disconcerting for a website called Beyond Black and White. Chris said it herself, character above color. I have dated Black, Latino, and Asian men in the past. My husband is actually the very first white guy I dated but it has to do with geography more than anything. I have to say there really was no difference to me except the cultural aspect.  I know preferences exist, but reading this, I lose a little hope for the younger generation of black women who want to date out. If you want a bigger dating pool with more quality men, really branch out. You may be pleasantly surprised.

Leona_LoveQuest 432 pts

 uninterracial  I appreciate your comment and I hope I didn't infer that I was only open to dating white men. I'm still open to dating black men as a matter of fact and I have quite often. I am just trying whatever opportunities come my way. I don't feel this site promote white only. There may be some women here that feel that way, but I believe they are a minority.

uninterracial 948 pts

 Leona_LoveQuest Black, white, brown, yellow, whatever. I'm just saying if you want to widen your pool...u know what to do.

Toni_M 18819 pts moderator

I've said before in another article that if I showed up and there were only a few guys mulling around to an event, I'd probably leave. Sorry things turned out so disappointing.

 

I kind of feel like Jamila, in fact, I was wondering: Are you interested in the casual dating or is all your focus on finding a long term relationship? Because there's nothing wrong with short term options even as you prepare for long term options. There's no law saying every date has to be a quest for "the one". 

 

Also, you're right that maybe there are qualities in "Boywonder" that you are generally attracted to, and the reason other men aren't doing it for you is you already have a very set mindset as to what moves you. So maybe think about what those feelings are going forward?

 

Good luck. :)

Leona_LoveQuest 432 pts

 Toni_M  My focus is on finding a long term relationship, but I think you have to date casually to find one. Men get scared when they hear the words "committed" or "long term" (at least online) even when they've basically written that they are looking for the same thing. It's the whole "desperation" factor. So now I just say that I'm open to the possibility of finding the right guy to spend time with. I think that sounds sufficiently vague. I don't see the point in engaging in obvious dead ends, but I'm no saint either. I just can't allow myself to get too distracted.

Jamila 7217 pts moderator

 Leona_LoveQuest  Toni_M "So now I just say that I'm open to the possibility of finding the right guy to spend time with. I think that sounds sufficiently vague."

 

I think that's the totally wrong approach. It lets the guy completely off the hook and you are being dishonest--not only with yourself, but with him. If what you are looking for is a relationship then say that. If you choose to say you are OK with playing around for some vague period of time then don't act at all surprised that the men you end up spending time with were only ever interested in playing around with you. 

 

I just read "Why Men Won't Commit: Getting What You Both Want Without Playing Games" by Dr. George Weinberg, PhD, and I want to suggest you might want to read it too. Dr. Weinberg has a therapist who has mostly worked with men for over 25 years.  It's one thing to start hassling a man on the first date to be your boyfriend, it's a whole 'nother animal to play the "I don't care about us being in a relationship (BUT GOSH I AM SO LONELY AND WANT A RELATIONSHIP BUT I DON'T WANT TO ADMIT THAT CAUSE THEN I SUSPECT YOU WONT WANT TO CONTINUE TO DATE ME !!!) game". 

 

An excerpt from the book:

 

"He will trust you more after saying 'I love you' than he ever could if he doesn't say it. That is why, at your own speed, you need to ask for commitments, even small ones. At a certain stage you may have to demand the commitments that you need. It's not just that you need these commitments, but he needs to make them too if he is ever to feel love and eventually be able to make bigger commitments." 

Leona_LoveQuest 432 pts

 Jamila  Toni_M  How is that dishonest? I am open to meeting the right guy to spend my time with.  I'm telling you, the first question most guys ask me that I meet on line is "What kind of relationship are you looking for?" If I replied a committed long-term relationship, I never heard from them again. I certainly don't want to get myself in another situation like I have with Boy Wonder, but I've got to get to a first date. Did you see this post by Matthew Hussey?

http://www.gettheguy.co.uk/blog/avoid-asking/?awt_l=754Sw&awt_m=3gE.PGss2HINd5l

Jamila 7217 pts moderator

 Leona_LoveQuest  Toni_M "How is that dishonest?"

 

Because you've said that what you truly want is a relationship.  If finding a relationship is your focus, then why tell guys something "sufficiently vague" like being open to the possibility? You already have a hookup partner; you don't need another one of those (unless, of course, you want another one). I read what Matthew said on his sight--I'll get to my thoughts on Matthew himself later--but he says something that is closer to what I am telling you and to what Dr. Weinberg suggests that to what you are saying. Matthew says," What we are looking for is the right person." Fine. Then instead of saying I am looking for a relationship, say "I am looking for the right person" in lieu of  "I am open to the possibility". One sounds like you know what you want and are actively seeking it, the other sounds like you are open to whatever. 

 

"I'm telling you, the first question most guys ask me that I meet on line is "What kind of relationship are you looking for?" If I replied a committed long-term relationship, I never heard from them again."

 

You should be thankful you never hear from them again. They are clearly using that question to weed out the women who are looking for a relationship/the right guy so that they can find a woman who just wants to 'have a little fun'. 

 

"I certainly don't want to get myself in another situation like I have with Boy Wonder, but I've got to get to a first date."

 

Don't be so desperate to get to a first date that you end up compromising in certain areas that it will only come back to bite you in the butt later.  You've only been searching 8 months. I've heard of people searching for years using online dating sites before they found someone to be in a relationship with.  And now I'm going to have to put my Christian hat on, Galatians 6:9 says "Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up." If you continue to do what is right (tell guys that you are looking for the right one) then eventually the right one will come along. If you get tired of saying no to men who are not looking for the right one and decide that it would be easier to just say yes, you will end up with another BoyWonder. 

 

Now onto Matthew Hussey: I like Matthew, but I get try to get most of my relationship advice from trained therapists and counselors like Dr. Weinberg who have actually spent years counseling  couples and people in relationships. 

Leona_LoveQuest 432 pts

 Jamila  Toni_M  open to meeting the right person, looking to meet the right person; it sounds like semantics to me, but I get your point.

Funny how if a woman says she's looking for a relationship she may sound desperate but if a man says it he sounds like a good catch. Hmmm.

Law Wanxi 5792 pts

 Jamila  Leona_LoveQuest  Toni_M 

"Now onto Matthew Hussey: I like Matthew, but I get try to get most of my relationship advice from trained therapists and counselors...."

 

[whispers] don't let Christelyn hear you say that......just saying...

Jamila 7217 pts moderator

 Law Wanxi  Leona_LoveQuest  Toni_M Chris and I always disagree peaceably. It's no big deal. 

Toni_M 18819 pts moderator

 Jamila  Law Wanxi  Leona_LoveQuest Run, Jamila! It's a bunch of affronted fangirls with pitchforks! D:

Jamila 7217 pts moderator

 Toni_M  Law Wanxi  Leona_LoveQuest lol, now I know I need to watch my back on the way to the bus stop. 

Jamila 7217 pts moderator

"He was studying on-line to be a fitness trainer which I found interesting considering he was at least 40lbs overweight. Next, a recent divorcé who joked about being a great interracial boyfriend because he helped remove the tracks from his ex-wife’s hair weave. "

 

See, this right there is why I stay home and far away from the dating arena! lol  

 

Furthermore, there are just too many online college programs nowadays. How can it even be permissible for someone to study online to be fitness trainer? Unless of course the person was already a fitness trainer and now only needs a re-certification of some sort. 

 

"My only excuse is that he occasionally offers exactly the kind of spontaneous adventures that I long for and even when he’s not around I can still feed off the anticipation of our next encounter."

 

You know what? It's OK for you to continue to see BoyWonder. You're grown and being alone for extended periods of time can be extremely difficult. Sometimes it's nice to just be held and have some company and as long as you know what you are getting yourself into then there is no harm being done. It's cool to have a little fun with Mr. Right Now until Mr. Right shows up.