Toni: Beware of Female “Lifestyle” Sabateurs!

Toni: Beware of Female “Lifestyle” Sabateurs!

“Critical reading and thinking means not just looking at what is said, but understanding what it means, and how best to apply what knowledge has been provided.”

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By BB&W Crew chica, Toni_M

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(Photo courtesy of Maurico Murillo)

 

Why watch your back? Because not everyone has your back.


No matter whether overt or hidden, harm meant or not meant, blood relation or total stranger: Sometimes, your best interests take a hammering.

 

Some people will blatantly attack you for even thinking about bettering yourself.

 

“Crabs in a barrel”.

 

“Misery loves company”.

 

 

These attacks are easiest for people to see and fight back against, at least if their self-esteem is intact, because the unpleasantness is obvious. The bitterness and bad feelings are right in the open.

 

 

But what do you do when someone is saying things that sound rational and kind, but actually work against you? Do you dismiss the fact that what they’re saying is more harm than good because they don’t sound mean? Do you nod along because their version of reality sounds so much sweeter than the real thing?

 

 

For instance, take the idea of embracing your physical beauty as a black woman and doing your best to take care of and improve it. For us, our Achilles heel has been our weight, at least for the past twenty or thirty years. We are as a race of women being pushed into the mammy and sapphire corner, and they’re now trying to slap lipstick on the hybrid and sexy her up.

 

Reminder: these were images that were created for black women by white racists. Mammy, Sapphire, and Jezebel never belonged to black women. They were stereotypes said of us, spitefully and mockingly said of us, and somewhere along the way, there was some confusion. Now, black women will fight you if you try to push them away from giving their all to living in these roles.

 

But rail against physical stereotypes and improve your looks, and along come others to assure you that “you don’t really need to lose those pesky 100 lbs” and that “you’re lovely just the way you are and one day your prince will come”.

 

Hmm.

 

I guess when they were giving doses of naive romanticism, I missed mine because aside from the idea of there being someone out there for everyone, I also acknowledge that the dating world is like every other aspect of mating in nature: Competitive as hell.

 

Women are dirty when it comes to things like this. Not all of us, but enough to the point where you have to watch out for yourself.

 

The choice to lose weight, to change uncouth behavior, to dare to be feminine in a way that upsets “the natural order” – you can’t expect that your opponents in the dating world are going to take this lightly. Perhaps consciously, perhaps subconsciously, there is going to be resistance. And the methods used are not going to be pretty.

 

Mostly because the underhanded means of taking you out will attempt to be made in the guise of friendship and love: Hey, I’m just looking out for you!


Is there anything uglier than playing someone against herself? I doubt it.

 

Now, not all advice offered will be pleasant and pretty. This is hardly the best way to judge advice, because honestly, we as humans shy away from anything unpleasant. That’s just the way we are. We avoid the unpleasant and cling for our very lives to whatever tickles our fancy.

 

So good advice may sound harsh, and we turn away from it, and bad advice sounds pleasant, and we listen.

 

As for why we do this, I believe that we have trained ourselves to resist and fight off perceived attacks by their tone, more so than what is said. So if something sounds “hurtful”, regardless of whether or not it’s helpful, it will be rebuffed. And if something sounds “pleasant”, even if it is meant to harm us, it will either not be rebuffed, or be allowed equal consideration due to the gentle-sounding nature of what is said.

 

This is unfortunate. Critical reading and thinking means not just looking at what is said, but understanding what it means, and how best to apply what knowledge has been provided.

 

Until more black women are able to critically regard and think carefully about the “advice” coming their way from various sources, they will continue to leave themselves open to suggestions that however well meant had might as well be a dagger lodged directly in their spines.

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VintageNarcissa 3151 pts

I have a friend, who I'm actually in a bit of a falling out with right now, who is kind of like that. I have learned to ignore most of what she says and not take it seriously, but I definitely notice her "I'm just trying to help you out" attitude. If I'm spending time with other friends and she tries to contact me and I tell her I'm out with friends, the next time I talk to her she'll be "Oh, hi miss popular, miss VIP." Especially when my relationship is concerned, she has displayed this. When I first got into my relationship, she would make a lot of "light hearted" jokes about various things. But when I tried to talk about her about serious stuff about my relationship she would try to discourage me. When I told her my boyfriend and I were considering living together after he returned from the military, she told me it was too soon. When I told her I was considering sex with my boyfriend, she told me again it was too soon and how when she was with her ex she made him wait how many ever months before she had sex with him -  after she had earlier made fun of me saying, oh now that you have a boyfriend you may finally get laid. And now she's upset with me that I don't want to talk about my sex life. 

 

I'm like, really? It's not exactly my fault that she's so hung up on 1. her ex from 4-5 years ago and 2. her idea of the IBM who she herself has sarcastically admitted does not exist. It's not my fault that I've taken a chance and she can't get past her baggage to do the same. It's funny because when she was in her relationship and I wasn't in a relationship I was always there for even though I knew her boyfriend was no good, but she would always complain that her other friends were not supportive. I was also the one there for her when she had to pick up her life from what he did to her when her other friends just said - I told you so and walked away.

 

It's very frustrating because I've been feeling this from a lot of people in a variety of ways. I really thought people would be happy for me now that I'm in a relationship, and a good, happy one at that. I couldn't have been more wrong. 

Toni_M 18953 pts

 VintageNarcissa That's unfortunate. :( But it really goes to show that certain circumstances reveal who your real friends are. That person definitely sounds self-centered and insecure and you are better off without their "friendship". 

 

 

VintageNarcissa 3151 pts

 Toni_M That's the funny thing about it. Why she's upset with me right now is because she feels I'm not being a friend to her because I don't want to talk about my sex life. She argues that she always shares things with me and she says that my not wanting to talk about her about this makes her not trust me with her information. It's very exhausting. 

Karla 18246 pts

 VintageNarcissa Girl, a good friend is difficult to find.  My mom says that if you have one friend upon whom you can truly depend, you're rich.  Clean out your closet.

VintageNarcissa 3151 pts

 Karla I couldn't agree more. I've actually been doing a lot of cleaning lately. I honestly get it now why people say that when girls/women get boyfriends they seem to forget about their friends. Now, I'm thinking, maybe it's not the girl, maybe it's the friends. Because my boyfriend is the only one who encourages me to sort things out with my "friends," and he seems to be the only person who is concerned about me in *my* situation and not themselves.

oekmama 1047 pts

 VintageNarcissa  Karla When I got married, my Dad told me that eventually I'd mostly hang out with other married/coupled people. I didn't want to believe it, but he was right. It's not the lack of common interests, it's just less drama.

Someone once told me that friends are there for a reason or sometimes a season. Sometimes you have to redefine boundaries. Sometimes you have to let go. One thing for sure, you will make new friends.

oekmama 1047 pts

 VintageNarcissa I'm happy for you.

VintageNarcissa 3151 pts

 oekmama Thank you :) That really means a lot. It's funny because just yesterday my boyfriend introduced me to his good friend whose married with three gorgeous little girls. We spent the evening and their house and I had a lot of fun and started thinking, maybe I/we need to hang out with more couples. I think what is happening with me and this girl is that we have to redefine our relationship. 

Zindzi_Zenani 1399 pts

 VintageNarcissa  oekmama Not trying to be a Negative Nelly, but I wouldn't waste my time.  I was on and off with my friend like that for YEARS and at the end, since she wasn't about to change, it just couldn't work.  You risk your feelings really getting hurt by her; just remember the good times and wish her well, IMO.

Zindzi_Zenani 1399 pts

 VintageNarcissa Is her name Kellee?!?  Sounds JUST like my former "friend."  Always got some advice for someone else as if her life is BANGING.  7 years of undergrad & no degree.  3 years of unemployment after QUITTING a job in the middle of a recession.  Still stuck on a dude with 3 other baby mamas.

 

I used to stay silent when she'd give me advice.  Our friendship ended when I told her, "honey, look at YOUR life.  How are you making suggestions to me?!?"  She got mad...oh well.

JessNYC 24 pts

 Zindzi_Zenani Hi there, you must be me in an alternate universe because my former BFF and I got into this very argument. We were having a "conversation" when she asked me why it was that  I never asked her for advice. I told her since she made what i believed to be bad life decisions/choices there was no way that I would allow her to influence my decisions. Needless to say she lost it. She then went on to tell me that I was not a true friend, mind you at the time of this talk she had been living at my parents house for six months now!!!!! as I had literally just returned from spending several months overseas. 

Zindzi_Zenani 1399 pts

 JessNYC *blank stare*  Wait, she shacking up with YOUR parents (which YOU weren't even doing), and she's mad you don't ask her for advice.

 

Thank you.  I shall have something to laugh about for the rest of my days.

 

But, that's exactly how I felt.  I mean, this girl used to work at a retail shop in undergrad and would call off from 4 hours shifts even though that was her ONLY source of income at that time.  One time, I had a white professor who'd pissed me off and was trying to get back on my good side (she was one of those guilty white liberals) & since she knew the two of us were roomies, she actually told her that if she turned in all of her missing work by the end of the semester, she'd give her a B.  Why did this girl not turn in a damn thing?  She had a summer internship that she only needed to turn in a journal for to get credit and even though another friend of ours gave her hers to just tweek and resubmit, she didn't submit anything and got no credit for the class.

 

Her boyfriend told her that the reason he'd disappeared for a week without returning any of her calls is because, when he was on the way to her house, his aunt died in the passenger seat and he was so despondent that he spent the week in a motel.  She took him back and tried to argue me DOWN about whether or not this was a lie (the same boyfriend had gone missing earlier because of a bee sting emergency visit...that obviously lasted 3 days).

 

And that's just the beginning.  I'm like, my life ain't perfect, but I'm not running around making the dumbest decisions I can think up.  I felt the need to share these examples to you because you've provided me with the ULTIMATE silly friend story.  None of this can top what you said, LOL.

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oekmama 1047 pts

 Rosie S Agree. There's an article over at Black Girl's Guide to Weight Loss about just that - that black people in general get less weight loss advice from doctors (both white and black).

interesting.

Zindzi_Zenani 1399 pts

 Rosie S No thanks on the skinny, but you're right about it putting a bulls eye on you.  My friend is a big girl and I can't tell you how many times men have approached her and said, "big girls need love too," as if this was something she didn't know and she should be grateful that they're showing love.  She's hardly the weak type so she flicks em to the side, but I'm sure a lot of other BBW deal with it.

Karla 18246 pts

"So good advice may sound harsh, and we turn away from it, and bad advice sounds pleasant, and we listen."

Ah, yes, the "damning with faint praise" approach is alive and well. These are some gems I heard when I was younger: "Oh, you don't have a man?  Well, sweetie, you look good but most men want a woman with a little meat on her bones." or "Wow, that haircut looks amazing on you; you look like a model.  You do know that men prefer long hair, though, right?  Maybe you should get a weave." or "You are a true troubleshooter; you always get the job done.  Some people find that a bit intimidating, though.  You should tone down your intelligence so other people won't feel so dumb around you."  Yes, I kid you not.  This is the kind of advice I received.  When I confronted the adviser, they would retreat into "I meant well." or "I'm just trying to help you out."  Whatever.

Toni_M 18953 pts

Karla

"You should tone down your intelligence so other people won't feel so dumb around you." 

 

OH MY GOD YES!!! Or the "Men are threatened by smart women." And usually this is meant to imply a woman with an IQ that's higher than your common house plant's. 

 

ASwirlGirl 3047 pts

 Toni_M  Karla If I had $5 for every time I've heard that . . . .

Law Wanxi 5812 pts

 Toni_M 

Oh, please.  The only men threatened by smart and powerful women are the weak, timid, mediocre and pathetic.  Some hide behind shells of hyper-masculinity, as if to make themselves feel superior, not realizing how inferior in every way they are to smart, powerful women.  

 

As for me, smart women make me quiver from the wanting of them.  I find them alluring as they seduce me with their brilliance, their wit and rapier candour.  I find intellect combined in a woman with power and accomplishment as irresistible to me as heroin or cocaine is to an addict.  I've learned to spot them, going by the feelings, the yearning building in me without abatement.  Smart women women require no supplementary aphrodisia, they are the ultimate aphrodisiac.  I'm consumed by them, they make me burn with lust and desire.  

 

Well, that's just me; other men's mileage may vary.  Especially those pathetic little faux-men who are even slightly intimidated.

 

Off topic:  isn't that saboteur and, hey francophones, wouldn't that be saboteuse?  Is it hot in here or just a lot of smart women found on this blog?

Karla 18246 pts

 Law Wanxi  Yes, the word is "saboteur" or "saboteuse" for a female (it's technical, though; not used much, even in French).  You'd be amazed at how many mediocre, weak-a**, pathetic men and women (yes, that's right) exist out there.  My mom says that it's looking like the new normal.  I'm with you, though.  Intelligence is a mighty powerful aphrodisiac for me as well.  Stupidity leaves me cold as ice.

Law Wanxi 5812 pts

 Karla 

I did absorb enough French over the years to accompany the posh accent, since a bit of French is de rigueur for the "public school" crowd.  

 

Brit joke:  you say tuhMAYtoe, I say tahMAHtoe, you say puhTAYtoe, I say pomme de terre.  It cracks them up at Balliol!

Karla 18246 pts

 Law Wanxi  Mmm hmm.  Not surprised you have a "bit" of French.

Law Wanxi 5812 pts

 Karla 

{sigh}... I took it in high school, but it didn't much stick.  I lacked the requisite French petite amie et un oreiller.

MercedesHasLeftTheBuilding 1068 pts

 Law Wanxi  Toni_M 

 

.a smile for you. :-)

Brenda55 19668 pts moderator

 Law Wanxi  

"As for me, smart women make me quiver from the wanting of them.  I find them alluring as they seduce me with their brilliance, their wit and rapier candour.  I find intellect combined in a woman with power and accomplishment as irresistible to me as heroin or cocaine is to an addict.  I've learned to spot them, going by the feelings, the yearning building in me without abatement.  Smart women women require no supplementary aphrodisia, they are the ultimate aphrodisiac.  I'm consumed by them, they make me burn with lust and desire."

 

Well heck Law.  If I smoked I'd need to light one up after reading this. ;-)

Christelyn 8886 pts moderator

 Law Wanxi  Toni_M Well...dayum, Law. DAYUM!

NYCLisa 76 pts

 Karla Minor housekeeping point, but saboteur is misspelled in the header of this post; the powers-that-be with administrative permission on this blog might want to correct that.

ASwirlGirl 3047 pts

 Karla I wish there was a "Love" button for this comment . . . so true!

Jamila 7285 pts moderator

I would just add this to the conversation: being healthy is important, but if you can't find the motivation to get rid of unhealthy habits for your own well-being, then do it for the benefit of those you love--so that you can around longer for them. 

 

I think the best motivation to change is always internal motivation, but some people don't care enough about themselves to change but they do care about the opinions of other people, they do care about "trying to get a man" enough to change.

 

Whatever works to make you do what you feel you need to do, go for it.

BlackWomenDeserveBetter 1852 pts

Indeed...I was just reading an article earlier this AM about the lull of  settling for "basic", "standard" & "A-OK".  In general, we need to think beyond that to achieve and supersede our goals. With that being said, more than 25+ lbs overweight (This...includes...me...yeah) should be looked at...Big-boned (me too) only travels so far past the farmhouse. Yes, many of us are "Just Fine™", but can we do better? The answer is an emphatic YES!<p>Due to passing a milestone age, I am even more commited to health and overall well-being. "Just Fine™" will not carry me into the 40's & 50's at an optimum level. Currently I am taking Christelyn 's torture and cutting out the unnecessary sugar and have lost about 6lbs. In addition, I am reevaluating my nutrients to get the most out of my regimen.

My latest conversation: "I Was Threatened By An Indian Woman At The Sikh Temple‏"

oekmama 1047 pts

 BlackWomenDeserveBetter  Christelyn torture? You mean cutting the sugar? That's not torture. Trying to get on your head like Christelyn... now that...

BlackWomenDeserveBetter 1852 pts

 oekmama  Christelyn Indeed...I plan to challenge myself more in the exercise dept!

My latest conversation: "From Russia, With Love"

MZ Elf 2727 pts

I also think the "well meaning" have been brainwashed by their experiences with weight perceptions in the black community. I was very comfortable with my body size and did  a lot of outdoor activities to keep me in shape. Most black girls weren't as sports oriented as boys back then or chose one's that had a shelf life, like volleyball.

 

The women of other people groups have never attempted to tell me anything about my body either way but, I can see that being a problem. What I have heard when they saw my daughter in pro-athlete shape is that she is a "monster" or "beast" because she was tight, muscular and fit. I get what they mean but I see it as masculating. Most of their daughters are bean poles and I never make comments about their children. Either way, my daughter works out to p90x, plays tennis and is athletically built and isn't going to look like a bean pole but she also isn't told that the extra weight she gains is ok.

 

The other day while shopping, I put a size 4 skirt up to my body and it looked like it would fit .I was shocked and figured it was that USA "vanity" size 4 since I am between a 6 and 8 dress size. A tall thinnish ww shopping next to me said "Yes, you are tiny". I think it's kind of funny considering I am intent on taking off at least 10 more pounds and am still getting in shape.

 

 

 

MZ Elf 2727 pts

I just thought about this example that happens to me a lot. When people see a the boy, who is a physical specimen, they automatically put him in football. I personally am not a fan of rushing off my son to a football field because his body fits the bill. He loves the tennis racket and knows the court better than a crib(he refused to sleep in) and has watched it from 6 months in his swing and played since 9 months(walking early to pick up the racket). I still would like to think he has more in him than a sport inclination because he is brown and built solidly. As this post suggest, sounds good if you want someone to categorize you in their version of how they see you. Not so much if you have bigger and better goals.

Law Wanxi 5812 pts

 Mocha Z 

"He loves the tennis racket ....."

 

Football leads to crippling injuries and a beer gut with ESPN-induced weekend persistent vegetative states.  Tennis leads to badminton, playable with the Chinese boss.  it also leads to racquetball, an distinctly upmarket sport with upmarket players and squash, it's older, tonier and more posh sibling played by people who are older, tonier and more posh.  It's a bit like the difference between Field Lacrosse and Intercrosse.  Tennis also leads to athletic scholarships that don't require all-year practice at nicer colleges.

 

Racquetball and squash would also give him the opportunity to mix socially with those above him socially and higher up the corporate ladder, often MUCH higher up the corporate ladder.

 

Just a suggestion from a squash player....

 

MZ Elf 2727 pts

 Law Wanxi "Football leads to crippling injuries and a beer gut with ESPN-induced weekend persistent vegetative states."

 

Lolz, about the beer gut and the ESPN veg state. I don't like football, the players, the danger, the lifestyle and never have. It's worse than screeching styrofoam, chalkboard scraping and crazy cat howling all at once.The weekends thrown away to that would mean I failed, ugghh.

 

During the last Olympics, I was fascinated with the badminton competition and how well the Chinese women played it. Didn't realize it was even an Olympic sport. I agree, he would be able to use it  for those cousin sports socially.Ping pong would be great too. I used to love playing because of the quick eye hand coordination needed.

 

My dad is a golf player and tennis player. Dad had a taller/leaner build and was more of an intellect and played mild sports although he loves watching football and basketball. I grew up watching McEnroe  and Connors.

Karla 18246 pts

 Mocha Z I was on the tennis team in high school (went to a DoD high school in Germany; we had lots of sports that didn't even register on stateside schools).  Although we didn't get much in terms of money or recognition or an audience, I loved it.  The best thing?  Arthur Ashe came to our school after winning Wimbledon and I got to meet him!  That was one of the most singular events in my 16 year old life.

BlackWomenDeserveBetter 1852 pts

 Mocha Z ".......A tall thinnish ww shopping next to me said "Yes, you are tiny". I think it's kind of funny considering I am intent on taking off at least 10 more pounds and am still getting in shape........."<p>I've received similar comments (At 5'2 and errr...Let's just say more than 160 right now) by other women and wonder about their perception and/or sincerity. Thinking "If you really believe I'm small, then what are you comparing me to?"...Interesting...

My latest conversation: "I Was Threatened By An Indian Woman At The Sikh Temple‏"

MZ Elf 2727 pts

 BlackWomenDeserveBetter "Thinking "If you really believe I'm small, then what are you comparing me to?"...Interesting..."

 

Right! That is usually what I say, lol. I don't nod and shake my head but ask just that question..."Compared to? Regardless, I set my standard and was in the gym last night to battle this out.

 

I am 5'3 so I know how 160 looks on people our height. Yet, some people called me tiny when I was at that weight too, lol. It what post baby weight and never a weight I would want to stay at.

 

Good luck and keep at it ! <3

yvonnelee 195 pts

I've never been one to give unsolicited advice but for some reason I find other black women always want to comment on my lifestyle and particularly my weight.  'Gal you need to eat something' and I'm a healthy weight for my height or 'you don't have kids yet?' when I only in my 20's and unmarried. Definitely the case of others wanted you to validate their dysfunction by making the same mistakes. 

Toni_M 18953 pts

 yvonnelee  That is side-eye worthy to be sure. Especially coming from a complete stranger (for example, random people commenting on one's choice to date interracially).

 

Though, not all unsolicited advice is bad.

 

If you were walking around with toilet paper stuck to your shoe and you didn't notice, I imagine you'd want to be informed. I know I would. :D

 

It's definitely a situation where as I said you have look at it logically: Does it help or harm you? Is it relevant to your interests and if so, what do you plan to do with the information?

 

 

I absolutely agree that people will try and use you to validate their dysfunction, and will selfishly advise you accordingly.

ASwirlGirl 3047 pts

 yvonnelee The question you were asked about having kids reminds me of the time my godmother was asked by a (so called) friend: "So when is Kathleen gonna have a baby?" Mind you, Kathleen was 16 at the time! My godmother was momentarily speechless, but I (never at a loss for words), answered for her: "After she graduates from college and gets married." I then proceeded to give her an You-Must-Be-Out-of_your-Mind-Don't-Even-Think-About-It Look. I was only 21 at the time, and I know my godmother's friend thought I was out of line for jumping in their conversation, but I didn't care. My godmother then changed the subject to her friend's daughter - who was 17 and pregnant with her 2nd baby. SIGH.

Zindzi_Zenani 1399 pts

 yvonnelee I'm always shocked when people are surprised I don't have children.  I'm 27!!!!!  I mean, aren't we off that foolishness yet?

ASwirlGirl 3047 pts

 Zindzi_Zenani  yvonnelee It just GALLED me that she expected that having a baby OOW was a GIVEN, and her tone indicated that something was "wrong" with my cousin Kathleen for not having a baby "yet." THE. NERVE. She wanted her to have a baby because her daughter was on her SECOND. I also think she was upset because my godmother was not encumbered like she was with raising illegitimate grandchildren. Whew! I'm getting mad again just thinking about it.

Zindzi_Zenani 1399 pts

 ASwirlGirl  yvonnelee The expectation that my child would be born OOW doesn't bother me...it just bothers me that I'm expected to have a child before I'm 30!  I mean, DAMN.  Can a sista live HER life first?

 

I honestly don't ever want kids because I don't long for the kind of life that would be healthy for children (I'm tryna do crazy ish like live in different country every other year) and that blows folks even more.  I've even been called selfish for not wanting children!  Its such an OBVIOUS double-standard.  I've NEVER heard anyone tell a man he's selfish for not wanting kids.

ASwirlGirl 3047 pts

 Zindzi_Zenani  yvonnelee I understand. It's just that the damaging things that need to change (like the OOW rate) have become such a given. Other's "expectations" can be negative for various reasons. I dare say that some of the people who want you to have a baby want you to maintain the status quo of choices THEY made (ditto for having OOW babies). Your not having a child gives you a level of freedom many of them don't have, and thus facilitates your ability to live the kind of life YOU want. 

MZ Elf 2727 pts

 Zindzi_Zenani  ASwirlGirl  yvonnelee Do you! Enjoy the life you see for yourself. Sounds awesome to me but more importantly, to you. Just send us women that did have kids word of your success in your nomad lifestyle! YOU ARE NOT SELFISH, you are sure of what you want and that is mature and intelligent . I can line up more selfish, immature and idiotic parents than I care to know. Good luck!

VintageNarcissa 3151 pts

 Zindzi_Zenani That's not selfish at all. It's actually quite admirable. I know for myself, I honestly don't want to have kids until I'm much older, and would probably prefer to adopt than have children of my own. Because right now I have a similar idea and plan for my life. I want to be adventurous and have a sense of culture, and those things don't match with diapers. 

Zindzi_Zenani 1399 pts

 ASwirlGirl  yvonnelee I'm sure that has something to do with it.  Misery does love company.  I'll agree that having children OOW seems to be a negative thing because of the financial and support aspects (two incomes are better than one as are two pairs of hands).  Other than that, I don't see anything wrong with having children OOW if you're totally prepared for it.

 

And I AIN'T prepared, LOL.

Zindzi_Zenani 1399 pts

 Mocha Z  ASwirlGirl  yvonnelee THANK YOU!  I've only lived in Turkey thus far, but when I get my life totally together, my nomadic ways shall commence!

Zindzi_Zenani 1399 pts

 VintageNarcissa Amen!  

 

Don't have baby, WILL travel!